JL and Kelly are at it again. In their last episode, the conversation around a fear of success entered the chat, so they decided to dissect that even further. If you had to choose where your bigger fear lies, is it in failing or succeeding? Self-sabotage often shows up in the most curious ways. Kelly and JL break it all down in this super thoughtful friend therapy session that is sure to provide you with insights on your own life.

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The GOT actor JL was trying to think of is Rory McCann. Dude's doing it right. He lives on his boat in Scotland and is often unreachable when he's not working

We LOVED this episode of Good Hang with Jennifer Lawrence

Ok, ok, we heard you screaming at us. YES, the fictional Heart of the Ocean IS in fact a blue DIAMOND. We're human, and we admit when we make terrible mistakes. RIP The Heart of the Ocean. Our hearts go on for you 🧡

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This week in TNR, JL and Kelly welcome THEIR FIRST GUEST!! EEEEE! Anna Moon 🌕 is one of the most interesting and intriguing humans around. She shares her journey with mediumship and her psychic abilities, a near death experience she had that made her realize that she can never leave her music career behind, and how love is a powerful gift that we can all choose. She's releasing her debut solo album this year, and TNR is STOKED be able to help spread the word.

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JL and Kelly get comfortable with being ... uncomfortable because it's on the other side of staying safe where the magic starts to happen. Kelly used to go non-verbal even just thinking about a microphone and a young, shy JL learned how to hitchhike in a pinch ... Also, if you want to share the one item you'd save from your house in a fire, TNR is all ears

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This week in TNR, JL and Kelly keep it really light in talking about bravery and … death? Kelly feels pulled to acknowledge the big, fat elephant in the room, and JL shares a quote she learned from her favorite tarot card reader that she starts every morning with. The ladies talk big cross-country moves, skydiving, ditching jobs that look good on paper but melt souls and what happens during a near-death experience. It’s all about living for the NOW.

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“After” by Dr. Bruce Greyson (near-death experiences. SO INTERESTING!)

The story about Dr. Lynda Cramer who was pronounced clinically dead for 14 minutes and claimed to have spent five years in heaven!

When We Die Talks (Zach Ancell’s podcast where he has conversations with people all around the world discussing what they think happens when we die)

The story behind the Cherokee chief that coined the quote: “I am a warrior and today is a good day to die”

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This week in TNR, JL and Kelly discuss who influenced their lives early on, Kelly's weird childhood obsession with Civil War history, and JL's stand in grandma who always had a seat for everyone. There just might be a solid dad joke in the mix because, why the hell not?

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A special live edition of TNR! JL and Kelly talk joying up your life and how to combat negative thought spirals. We're in the season of mirror pep talks, farm stands, and doing things that promote being present af amid life's chaos.

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Follow along on JL's farm stand: Goods in the Woods

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This week in TNR, Kelly and JL aren't mincing words when it comes to how they are showing up for 2026: they are leaning in hard to giving fewer f*cks. They talk about the power of noise canceling headphones and going through life blind, and they play a rousing improv game that they hope you'll play at your next Dry January mocktail party.

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Improv for the People (in Los Angeles)

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Have you ever had something unexpected come into your life that's made it fuller than you ever contemplated? This week in TNR, JL and Kelly discuss how much their K9 friends have changed their lives. JL tells one of her epically entertaining stories about this bitch named Pebbles.

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JL and Kelly dive into their own personal spirit guide: their own intuition. Everyone has one, and it's our most powerful tool. Think about a time when you really tapped in and it sent you the exact message that you needed, and how spot on it was. Though she speaks softly, she's always in there, and you can tap in anytime you want. Quiet your mind and go for a ride into the depths of your gut.

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This week in TNR, since it's NYE, JL and Kelly discuss shedding what's no longer in service and looking towards the new year. They break down the psychology behind Kelly's relationship with achievement and reflect on the year soon to be in the rear view. JL talks about how she's leaning into her "fuck it" mentality for next year.

BYE 2025!

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Sara Blakely, thank you for making a big bet on pantyholes and not stopping until Spanx was born!

O’s Guide to Life (2007)

Nigel Crook - tarot card reader (SUPER legit reading)

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