Utah's own Governor Cox is Chair of the National Governor's Association and the group is in our state for the next couple days. Dave and Marty are joined by Bill McBride, Executive Director of the National Governors Association to discuss the association's agenda, which includes Mathew McConaughey as keynote speaker, and their Disagree Better initiative. Listeners are invited to call in as to whether they feel comfortable sharing their political views. Sue Ellspemann, President of Ivy Tech Community College and Vice Chair of the Presidents Forum, also joins the conversation to talk about related curriculum her organization is working to get into higher education institutions.