On the show today Assistant Editor Lucie McInerney is joined by science writer David Quammen and The Independent's Senior Climate Correspondent Louise Boyle to discuss the role of wildlife in the pandemic.

It's thought that Covid-19 originated in bats before making the leap to humans, so what did that process look like? If it can happen once, what's to stop it happening again? And, with all that in mind, is there any reason to be hopeful for the future?

The Independent is campaigning to Stop The Wildlife Trade. You can read more about our calls to end to practice here: https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/stop-the-wildlife-trade

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