The Navel Gays

Our guest today is a self-identified autoandrophile who goes by the name Fell online. Fell does not struggle with gender dysphoria but she is nonetheless keenly aware of her AAP and has been since her sexuality first manifested.

Fell tells us about her early life experiences surrounding AAP, it’s connection to her ovulation cycle, and how she manages her obligate AAP while being in a monogamous relationship with a straight man.

You can follow fell on X: @fellvoid_sfw

Watch her on Phil Illy's Autoheterophiles:

This week on the pod we are joined by Taftaj (@tafphorisms), noted political commentator and co-host of the Dollcast podcast. Taf was a youth transitioner, presents convincingly feminine, and experienced early attraction to boys. Taf was, for all intents and purposes, "true trans." So, how did she end up talking to the two of us about autogynephilia? Well, Taf believes that the truth will set her (and all trans people) free.

In this conversation, we talk about autogynephilia's PR problem, the pressures to appear "true trans" and the ensuing HSTS larp, and Taf's personal journey of transition and autosexual acceptance. We discuss the gulf between trans activism and trans reality, female AGP, and why Taf believes that societal awareness of AGP is actually a blessing in disguise for transwomen. Let us know what you think!

A common (and valid) criticism of AAP is that it does not function like a paraphilia analogous to AGP. "If this is a sexuality, where is all the sex?" Well, luckily for us, today's guest is not shy about the erotic roots of his transition.

In this conversation we are joined by Frankie, a self-described "testo-butch" who transitioned to live as a transman after working as a professional dominatrix. Through his years in the trans adult industry and integration in a progressive queer community, Frankie has been able to observe a ton of FTM behavior, both social and sexual. Recently, Frankie has embraced the reality of being female and has begun speaking out about the more controversial sexological theories underpinning trans identity. And according to him, some of what we are calling ROGD is actually the rapid progression of AAP.

As our new official leather correspondent, we plan to chat with Frankie again in the future. We hope you enjoy this conversation.

Our guests this week are among the most interesting, sharp, and controversial people on political twitter -- Diane Yap and Hunter Ash. We brought these two on to talk about the intricacies of dating for AGPs and the women who are drawn to them. We ended up talking about much more, and there's something to piss off everyone in this conversation!

Tali and Aaron AAP-vestigate Diane, Hunter challenges the notion that he was "never truly dysphoric" if he is happy with detransition, and the whole crew talks about why the gender critical movement is actually woke faction in-fighting and bound to lose...because so many only want to fight. We opine about the crisis of faith in institutions and what happens when our cultural scripts don't map onto reality. And Diane ends us on a high note with a reminder that the truth will not only set us free, but it will give us a material evolutionary advantage over people who prefer socially convenient lies.

Join us for this far-reaching conversation and let us know in the comments what triggered you most.

This podcast is about autosexuality because we are interested in expanding the conversation around an often unspoken erotic inward turn. Although we're not particularly focused on the political ramifications, we believe that "autosexuality" is the most honest and accurate framework to describe the phenomenon that is at the root of most cross-sex identification. But, could "autosexual" also be the rebranding that autogynephilia needs? Our guest this week, Schyler, thinks it might be.

Schyler is one of the co-hosts of The Dollcast Podcast and a self-identified autosexual. As she says in her twitter/X bio, Schyler lives her life unremarkably trans. So, why join the gender wars? A responsibility towards the truth. If we want a future that includes access to medicalization and social integration for trans people, Schyler believes we need to get honest about the causes of dysphoria and the realities of gender transition.

What is the one thing that the trans tech millionaires, the OF gamer tgirls, and the ROGD boys all have in common? Well, actually, it's two things: autosexuality (AGP) and autism. We are not doctors and we are not making diagnoses -- but we are sharing our observations about what we see as the overlap between desire to transition and high-functioning autistic traits. And we're not the only ones who've noticed this connection. While many trans activists wear their 'neurodivergence' as a badge of honor (often listed in bio), it has become a sticking point amongst gender critical activists and detransitioners, many of whom believe it makes even adult medical transition unethical. Here's our take:

Once upon a time, the Heterodorx asked, "is Brianna Wu based?" Well, her new podcast just might be. This week on The Navel Gays, we react to the most recent Dollcast episode with guest evolutionary biologist, Colin Wright. We chime in to discuss our opinions on youth medical transition, the bathroom debate, and how autogynephilic psychology plays a role in trans politics. So, is Dollcast based? Let us know what you think.

Dr. Az Hakeem has dedicated much of his professional life to psychoanalyzing and serving the UK trans population. He pioneered a support group model that brought together pre-ops and post-ops and created a space where unfiltered honesty trumped affirmation. He's written two books on the topic of transition/detransition and has shared his expertise in various interviews and documentaries. For all of these reasons, The Navel Gays found his recent appearance on the Gender: A Wider Lens podcast particularly frustrating.

In this episode, we react to Dr. Hakeem's very own trans typology and interrogate how it stacks up to the Blanchard model. We question whether there's a meaningful difference between fetishistic and non-fetishistic transvestism, discuss the undeniable autism connection, and argue that autogynephilia is not just a genital fetish.

For the sake of time, we played the original conversation at 1.5 speed. Here’s the full episode we’re reacting to:

Here’s Ray Alex Williams’ episode with Dr. Bailey Tali mentioned:

Am I trans, or is it just a fetish? This question is asked daily in every corner of trans reddit.

This week on the Navel Gays, we tackle this question with two of our favorite dysphorics, Annie and Ray. We discuss the differences and similarities between AGP and AGAMP (also known as partial AGP) and the different "types" of modern trans presentations. We interrogate how neuroticism, disgust, and political worldview might influence whether an AGP takes on a full-time trans identity.

Listen to this conversation and tell us -- what exactly is the difference between a transwoman and a crossdresser?

We had none other than Ritchie Herron (AKA Tullip) on to discuss his autosexual revelation.

Follow Ritchie on X: https://x.com/TullipR

Read his Substack series Autogyne Files: https://tullipr.substack.com/p/the-autogyne-files-part-i

The key to understanding the hypothesis put forward in this podcast, which is that autosexuality often causes homosexuality, lies in episodes 1 and 2. The podcast does not have to be listened to in full or in any order, but we do strongly recommend listening to 1, then 2, then jumping to any others that strike your fancy.