In this episode of the Time for Impact podcast, Matt Cobble and Chris Wade sit down for an inspiring and wide-ranging conversation with Kate Lee OBE, the new CEO of NCVO (National Council for Voluntary Organisations).

Kate shares her vision for the future of the UK’s voluntary sector, moving away from the image of a "sage thought leader" and toward becoming a powerful convenor, partner, and cheerleader.

• Changing the Narrative: Why Kate wants to shift both the internal and external perception of charities to be more celebratory, focusing on the incredible, life-changing work the sector delivers every day.

• NCVO as a Convenor: How NCVO is returning to its roots—bringing great charitable thinkers together to spark the next generation of social innovation, much like it did for the many charities it helped found.

• Harnessing Sector Expertise: Moving from a top-down approach to one that taps into the vast wealth of knowledge held by practitioners across the country.

• The Data Debate: We dive into the critical importance of quality data for the sector but debate the best "home" for its collection and analysis.

• The Future of Mutual Aid: Exploring how the surge in local, organic community support can be sustained and integrated into the wider voluntary landscape.

• Partnership over Preaching: The shift from being a "body that tells" to a "body that listens and connects."

• NCVO Website: https://www.ncvo.org.uk

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