Joel Bakan joins the podcast to discuss his books, and the films based on them. He outlines the fundamental conflict inherent in companies ostensibly committed to ESG principles while simultaneously driven by a legal requirement to maximize shareholder value.

Episode resources:

• Mentioned at (03:30): The Corporation: The Pathological Pursuit of Profit and Power (book), by Joel Bakan, 2003
• Mentioned at (03:30): The Corporation: The Pathological Pursuit of Profit and Power (film), 2004
• Mentioned at (03:30): The New Corporation: How "Good" Corporations are Bad for Democracy (book), by Joel Bakan, 2020
• Mentioned at (03:30): The New Corporation: The Unfortunately Necessary Sequel (film), by Joel Bakan, 2020
• Mentioned at (11:11): Moneyland, by Oliver Bullough, 2019

Learn more about Joel's work here.