In episode four of her podcast, The New Normal, Maydianne Andrade – who is a Canada Research Chair in Integrative Behavioural Ecology and U of T Scarborough's vice-dean of faculty affairs and equity – talks with some of her students and with members of her own family to see how they're coping with distancing and uncertainty. The New Normal is a weekly podcast hosted by Andrade and created in collaboration with a University of Toronto Communications team led by producer Lisa Lightbourn.