This week, we have a wrap-up discussion with TNS contributor Scott M. Fulton about the VMWorld 2018, in which the giant of virtual machine software is taking bold steps into Kubernetes and containers, through a managed Kubernetes offering and also with its sister company's Pivotal PKS managed container service. The company is pitching its NSX virtual networking software as the basis of container operations in the cloud. But the package's automation capabilities leaves some network administrators wondering if they will have jobs in the years to come. "When infrastructure becomes truly programmable, who — or what — will be responsible for it? More to the point, will it be someone other than the people in charge of it now?" Fulton writes.

In the second half of the show, we discuss what the phrase "cloud native DevOps" means. Next week we are kicking off a series of articles on setting up and deploying cloud native DevOps, and Fulton offers some insight into this topic as well.