For our first full episode, we look at the conversation from the other side.

Our guest is Harriet Brocklebank, a British professional working in ESG reporting in the UK food industry. She grew up in Portsmouth, she works in London, and English is the only language she speaks. Writing, public speaking and daily corporate communication are all part of her job.

Most English conversations happening in the world today involve at least one person who learned the language. So what does that look like from a native speaker's point of view?

In this episode, Harriet talks about what it takes to be understood across languages, the moments when her own English has caused confusion, and why she believes adapting your speech is a skill native speakers need to learn too.

🎙️ Welcome to the first episode of The Non-Native Narrative: How We Learn and Use English.

Our first guest is Vy Le, also known as Vanessa, the CEO and Founder of Athenova. She spent thirteen years in language education before starting the company, and this podcast is something she has wanted to make for a very long time.

In this episode, she shares the story behind Athenova, and why she believes learning to think in a language matters far more than memorising rules.

💡 If you have ever waited until your English was good enough before speaking, this episode is definitely for you.

Let's check it out!