The spectre of Ryan Murphy returns to Run The Julias, but this time like a good version. Like in the Wizard of Oz when the good witch shows up, after you've seen the worst the witch community has to offer. TV's Kevin & Kat welcome Han Gottlieb to the pod to discuss the heartbreaking play adaptation The Normal Heart (2014), starring Mark Ruffalo! We technically got this out during Pride! It counts!