Joining Simon and I in Episode #2 of the MADMEN Podcasts this week are two of the really decent men of the game.

Brett Kimmorley (Noddy) was a stalwart of the New South Wales Blues and played 15 times for the Kangaroos. Christian Welch from the Melbourne Storm made his debut for the QLD Maroons in Game 3 last year and has fought back from several serious knee injuries to line up this week.

We talk about navigating the road back to playing through the COVID-19 crisis, Christian's role as Player Rep negotiating with the NRL and more importantly life after the game and how some of the biggest losses happen off the field.

A moving and inspirational chat indeed!