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The Older I Get, The Less I Know with Matthew Kimberley


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Matthew Kimberley wrote a self-help book at 27 called How to Get a Grip. He was certain he had things figured out. And he's spent the last 20 years finding out how little he knew.

In this episode, Matthew joins Kim and Pancho to talk about what he can't unsee: his own fallibility. It's been a gradual process: kids born with health challenges, a marriage dragged through the rocks, career swings that didn't land, and the accumulation of everything life throws at you when you stop being invincible.

What fills the space left by that certainty? For Matthew, it's relationships. A personal CRM to stay in touch with the people he cares about. A Red Velvet Rope policy that protects everyone's experience. The understanding that every good thing in his career traces back to a person, not a strategy.

The conversation also gets into the Dunning-Kruger effect, why Matthew has largely gone quiet on the internet, why silence isn't violence, and what it looks like to operate from hard-won wisdom instead of loud confidence.

Once you see how much you don't know, you can't unknow it. But that's not necessarily a bad place to be.

Concepts Explored

  • The Dunning-Kruger effect and what it looks like from the inside looking out
  • Fallibility as a slow realization rather than a single moment
  • Relationships as infrastructure: why Matthew traces every career win back to a person, not a strategy
  • The Red Velvet Rope Policy and why protecting who you work with protects everyone

Referenced & Recommended Resources

  • Book Yourself Solid by Michael Port and Matthew Kimberley (20th anniversary edition, October 2025): the system Matthew built his coaching practice around
  • The Single Malt Mastermind: Matthew's weekly email accountability program at singlemaltmastermind.com
  • Wittgenstein's Ruler via Nassim Nicholas Taleb: if a source isn't reliable, their opinion says more about them than about the subject
  • matthewkimberley.com: where to find Matthew and reach out directly
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Now That You See ItBy Pancho Gomez & Kim Paull