In this episode, Karen and Jonelle explore the "one-third rule," a practice used by Tina Tchen, Michelle Obama’s former chief of staff. This rule emphasizes ensuring that at least one-third of decision-making spaces are occupied by women and people of color to create meaningful representation. They discuss how corporate culture often resists these efforts and how DEI initiatives are being demonized and dismantled.

Karen shares her personal experiences of intentionally expanding her professional circles beyond white colleagues to foster authentic diversity. They unpack the challenges of performative activism versus genuine inclusion and the need to create spaces where diverse voices aren't just included but truly heard and valued. They also touch on the biases in hiring, particularly how names can impact job opportunities, and discuss ways white women can take responsibility for embodying diversity efforts despite institutional setbacks.

Call to Action

• Embody the One-Third Rule – Intentionally ensure at least one-third of leadership and decision-making spaces include diverse voices.
• Move Beyond Performative Activism – Authenticity matters. Representation should not be a box-checking exercise but a genuine commitment to inclusion.
• Expand Your Circles – Actively engage with people outside your immediate racial and cultural community.

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