JoJo, Jay and Krystal speak to comic and author Jen Brister. Jen's new book 'The Other Mother: A wickedly honest parenting tale for every kind of family' covers what its like to be a new mum - not that mum, the other mum, confused? We talk to Jen about being the non biological mum of twins boys, what its like to support your partner through IVF, and the long road to creating your very own perfectly unique family. 

Jay discovers the joys of returning to her teenage bedroom and we discuss what happens if you actually count to 5 when you were expecting your children to have responded appropriately by the time you reached 3?

Trigger warning* This episode contains chat about IVF, infertility and missing doors.