The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 2nd episode of Season 4, we talk with Cllr Thomas Kerr - a Glasgow city councillor who left the Tories to join Reform UK earlier this year. Thomas was joined by Reform UK's Deputy Leader, Richard Tice MP, in Glasgow today for the announcement of two further Scottish Cllr defections to Reform: Renfrewshire Cllr John Gray and South Lanarkshire Cllr Ross Lambie - now giving Reform 8 Scottish Cllrs. There is talk of a 9th defection next week - so what's going on?