The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast series brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence lawyer and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 3rd episode of Season 3, we are delighted to be joined by the former First Minister of Scotland, Alex Salmond, now leader of the Alba Party. As we approach the 10th anniversary of the Scottish independence referendum, we ask Alex for his reflections on that campaign, while looking at the last decade of Scottish politics and government. We examine the need for good governance, competence and strategy at Holyrood and consider the future for Scotland.