The Ordinary Elite is a Scottish podcast series brought to you from Glasgow by John McGovern and Mike Dailly. Both are Solicitor Advocates - John a criminal defence practitioner and Mike a civil litigation practitioner and social justice campaigner. In our 17th episode in Season 2, we talk with the sports broadcaster and journalist, Jim Spence. Jim was previously a college of further education lecturer in Dundee. College lecturers in Scotland have been in a pay dispute with industrial action since 2022. They are still flighting for fair pay and so far they have been offered a 6.9% deal over three years - much less than many other public sector workers. We also talk with Jim about Scotland's national football team who are now out of Euro 2024.