John Powell has just dared to tread where many film composers would kill to go—but also where most composers would be absolutely terrified to venture. He’s only the second person to score a Star Wars film other than John Williams, who, of course, is the almighty creator of the Star Wars musical universe. Powell’s been swapping (star) war stories with the other guy, Michael Giacchino—who scored Rogue One in 2016—and he joked that the process is like “walking through a minefield in clown shoes.”