She's no slacker. Danielle Jablanski has been an "expert" — she hates that word — in nuclear policy analysis (the "original Cyber-Physical System"), energy research, and now Nozomi Networks, where she plays the crucial OT cybersecurity strategist role. 

John Vecchi and Brian Contos pick Danielle's brain on the ever- and never-changing trends and challenges, digging into the need for consequence-based security and collaboration between security professionals and OT engineers. The discussion also covers the growing concern about the security of IoT devices in OT environments, the importance of centralizing and managing security, addressing the issues surrounding legacy devices, and the evolving landscape of liability and insurance in cybersecurity.

Key Topics Covered:
1. Trends in cybersecurity and the importance of consequence-based security
2. Concerns about the security of IoT devices in OT environments and the role of centralization and management
3. Challenges with legacy devices in ICS and healthcare and the need for building controls and defense-in-depth
4. Evolving conversations about liability and insurance in cybersecurity

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