Gary speaks to Zac about his life.

Zac is a member of the Spider Project CIC based in Birkenhead, Wirral.

Within this episode, Gary speaks to Zac about his life, from drinking alcohol at an early age through to street homelessness and brushes with the law; and beyond.

Zac discusses how creative recovery has helped him plan a new life.

A cautionary tale and a colourful insights into the real world of drugs and alcohol misuse.