In this episode we dive into the world of wearables — where personal health tech meets human behavior. My guest is Jason Oberfest, the Vice President of Healthcare at ŌURA, the company behind the sleek little ring that's quietly revolutionizing how we track sleep, recovery, and readiness.

Jason has a fascinating vantage point—not only on the origins of the Oura Ring and how it evolved from a niche tool to a mainstream health companion, but also on where this space is headed.

We talk about how behavior change actually happens, how wearables may begin to encroach on clinical territory, and what it means when your ring knows you're getting sick before you do.

This is a conversation about data, agency, and what’s coming next.

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