John and Payton are joined by Kaylie Clapp and Dr. Dale McConkey to discuss surprisingly helpful spiritual practices, the United Methodist Church’s Special General Conference, same-sex relationships in American Christianity, and whether Christians should protest.

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Dr. Dale McConkey's United Methodists Divided: Understanding Our Differences Over Homosexuality. Purchase at https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HKLC7M8/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i0

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