What if the pursuit of "good governance" actually increases the risk of civil conflict?

On this provocative episode of the Flywheel Economics Podcast, we challenge the entire development playbook. We sit down with an economist, whose career has taken him into many fragile states, to explore the profound tension between global economic ideals and the desperate need for stability in the world's most fragile countries. We dive deep into why reforms designed to eliminate corruption, like strengthening Public Financial Management (PFM), often fail, or worse, backfire.

This is a must-listen conversation for anyone interested in development, policy, and the ethical trade-offs required to build a lasting peace.

Special thanks to our guest, Tobias Haque (Lead Country Economist, The World Bank Group, Pakistan) for his thought-provoking insights.

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