How do we know we have progressed? Are quantifiable indicators enough, or do we look at changes around us? Ved mentions changes the Covid-19 quarantine has brought in the scenes before his eyes, making Priyam wonder whether progress is visibly made on social levels. That takes the duo's conversation into how people should judge and define progress and they pose and answer new questions- How is the Chinese path to progress different from the American one? How does the media's role shape our perceptions of progress? How does the time period of comparison matter? Is all positive change progress? Are we heading towards a world that's better, or one that's worse? All this, and much more!