Welcome back for episode four of The Spectra Current, where we have a great conversation with industry analyst Fred Moore. Listen as we explore his time as a semi-professional basketball player, learn what it was like building out the foundation for what we know today as the storage pyramid, as well as why security is no longer just a problem of the data center. Discover how tape can be a major benefactor of the growing secondary storage space, and how hyperscale data centers need tape to support their growing data footprints. Fred was a delight to have on, and we hope that you will enjoy this insightful conversation today.