In this episode of The Pastor in Training Podcast, I’m joined by theologian, philosopher, and author Dr. Thomas Jay Oord for a conversation that just might shift the way you see God forever.

We dive into open and relational theology—a view of God that centers love over control. Dr. Oord unpacks why he believes God can’t single-handedly stop evil, how divine love really works, and what it means to follow a God who refuses to coerce.

If you've ever struggled with the question, “Why didn’t God stop that from happening?”, this episode is for you. It's honest, hopeful, and packed with insights that can help rebuild a more compassionate faith.

💬 Topics include:

• Why “God is in control” might be the wrong message

• The difference between power and love

• What open and relational theology offers to people deconstructing

• Why a non-coercive God is still deeply present and powerful

📚 Learn more about Dr. Oord’s work at thomasjayoord.com
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