Zvi Ish-Shalom speaks with Joanna about: the vast ground of our primordial nature; the direct experience of the Mystery itself; words and the mysticism of sound; healing together the scroll of humankind; his most profound experience of compassion; we are cells of the Earth being; waking up and waking down, the two poles of the spiritual path; the Celestial Mother and the journey of the individual soul; the Path of Primordial Light.

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