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This isn't a "fuck the patriarchy/white straight men suck" episode. This is an acknowledgment and discussion of facts. The facts are, that the patriarchy exists; by nature, it oppresses women and people of color; and it needs to be reformed. (which would then make it something new altogether) Society and institutions are made to evolve as they learn and I think we've learned enough about the patriarchy to make it clear that a lot needs to change.
And, to be fair, outside of the economics of the patriarchy, I would say that it doesn't actually serve white men that well either, which we will dive in to as part of this epsidoe.
What is patriarchy?
It's very complicated, but in an oversimplified explanation: it's the idea that men have more power, dominance, and privilege than women. Men hold positions of power and women are less valued therefore end up oppressed. The ideas of the patriarchy infiltrate daily life.
For example: women take men's names at marriage and their children get the male surnames. Another is that men hold most executive positions at companies and in government. They make decisions based on their worldview to the detriment of women. Obviously there are some parts we take bigger issue with than others.
Values like rationale thinking are prioritized over emotions. It's primarily white and heterosexual. Behaviors are policed based on the social construct of these ideas.
So what does this have to do with the mental load?
The patriarchy built and maintains the systems we have today that do not help and support women. It also steers men's behavior in a way that does not support modern family life. It leads to deeply unsatisfied relationships on both sides of the equation although for different reasons. It really lays the foundation for the mental load.
If you're inherently against things like male dominance and privilege, does that make you a feminist? And is being a feminist still looked down upon?
Here's one definition I found: Many forms of feminism characterize patriarchy as a present-day unjust social system that subordinates, discriminates, and oppresses women. Feminists often view patriarchal ideology as the root cause of gender inequality.
So going by that, yes, I guess I'd define myself as a feminist and I would not feel bad about that. Side note - isn't it the patriarchy that makes us feel bad about being a feminist?
What mental load issues does the patriarchy keep in place?All these things end up falling primarily to women. Thus, we must mentally retain the details around them.
Millenial women cite the mental load as one of the primary reasons they get divorced. Is it fair to say that the gendered norms the patriarchy instills in men actually holds them back from being productive in relationships?
Harmful behavior in households taught by the patriarchy:
The man box: it sucks and it's doing your relationships a disservice. You can thank the patriarchy for that.
What is the man box?
It’s essentially a set of social constructs that men use to police each other’s behavior and it’s what they’re taught that they bring in to a marriage and a household that become behaviors we find problematic and contribute to the mental load. It’s a concept pioneered by Tony Porter, who has a fantastic TedTalk about it that we’ve linked in the show notes. Essentially:
Discussion: What of these man box teachings do you find most problematic and how do they contribute to your mental load?
Conclusion:
It's obvious what women have to gain from the patriarchy being radically reformed into something new. Better pay, equal rights, better balance. But men have just as much to gain.
Does this conversation become a chicken and the egg one? Because economically men benefit so much. And women's work is inherently undervalued so why would they even be convinced to try and change anything? What we see as being gained is seen as a loss by them.
Thriving Lives Fitness
Melissa Bloom
A well lived life
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Season 2 Episode 1 Sponsors
We don’t have show sponsors, but we do have an amazing group of people who have been great supporters of us on this podcasting journey.
By Katlynn Pyatt and Angie CantrellThis isn't a "fuck the patriarchy/white straight men suck" episode. This is an acknowledgment and discussion of facts. The facts are, that the patriarchy exists; by nature, it oppresses women and people of color; and it needs to be reformed. (which would then make it something new altogether) Society and institutions are made to evolve as they learn and I think we've learned enough about the patriarchy to make it clear that a lot needs to change.
And, to be fair, outside of the economics of the patriarchy, I would say that it doesn't actually serve white men that well either, which we will dive in to as part of this epsidoe.
What is patriarchy?
It's very complicated, but in an oversimplified explanation: it's the idea that men have more power, dominance, and privilege than women. Men hold positions of power and women are less valued therefore end up oppressed. The ideas of the patriarchy infiltrate daily life.
For example: women take men's names at marriage and their children get the male surnames. Another is that men hold most executive positions at companies and in government. They make decisions based on their worldview to the detriment of women. Obviously there are some parts we take bigger issue with than others.
Values like rationale thinking are prioritized over emotions. It's primarily white and heterosexual. Behaviors are policed based on the social construct of these ideas.
So what does this have to do with the mental load?
The patriarchy built and maintains the systems we have today that do not help and support women. It also steers men's behavior in a way that does not support modern family life. It leads to deeply unsatisfied relationships on both sides of the equation although for different reasons. It really lays the foundation for the mental load.
If you're inherently against things like male dominance and privilege, does that make you a feminist? And is being a feminist still looked down upon?
Here's one definition I found: Many forms of feminism characterize patriarchy as a present-day unjust social system that subordinates, discriminates, and oppresses women. Feminists often view patriarchal ideology as the root cause of gender inequality.
So going by that, yes, I guess I'd define myself as a feminist and I would not feel bad about that. Side note - isn't it the patriarchy that makes us feel bad about being a feminist?
What mental load issues does the patriarchy keep in place?All these things end up falling primarily to women. Thus, we must mentally retain the details around them.
Millenial women cite the mental load as one of the primary reasons they get divorced. Is it fair to say that the gendered norms the patriarchy instills in men actually holds them back from being productive in relationships?
Harmful behavior in households taught by the patriarchy:
The man box: it sucks and it's doing your relationships a disservice. You can thank the patriarchy for that.
What is the man box?
It’s essentially a set of social constructs that men use to police each other’s behavior and it’s what they’re taught that they bring in to a marriage and a household that become behaviors we find problematic and contribute to the mental load. It’s a concept pioneered by Tony Porter, who has a fantastic TedTalk about it that we’ve linked in the show notes. Essentially:
Discussion: What of these man box teachings do you find most problematic and how do they contribute to your mental load?
Conclusion:
It's obvious what women have to gain from the patriarchy being radically reformed into something new. Better pay, equal rights, better balance. But men have just as much to gain.
Does this conversation become a chicken and the egg one? Because economically men benefit so much. And women's work is inherently undervalued so why would they even be convinced to try and change anything? What we see as being gained is seen as a loss by them.
Thriving Lives Fitness
Melissa Bloom
A well lived life
Mentioned in this episode:
Season 2 Episode 1 Sponsors
We don’t have show sponsors, but we do have an amazing group of people who have been great supporters of us on this podcasting journey.