Creator Alex Dolan and Producer Vince Dajani talk about their crime thriller The Patron Saint of Suicides, adapting a novel to audio drama, using contrasts to create tension, fiction as a tool to tackle difficult subjects, and why you shouldn't write "likable" characters.

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The theme music is "Mockingbird (Instrumental Version)" by David Mumford, used under a CC-BY 4.0 License.

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