What if aging itself is the disease we should be curing? In this episode, I sit down with Aubrey de Grey, the legendary biogerontologist who has spent decades arguing that aging is not an inevitable fate but an engineering problem with solvable components. We dive into the science behind his SENS framework, explore why the longevity field is finally gaining mainstream momentum, and debate just how close we are to adding decades of healthy life to the human lifespan. Whether you're a skeptic or a true believer, this conversation will challenge how you think about mortality, medicine, and what it means to grow old. Aubrey is also someone that I admire deeply, so I hope you find this conversation interesting!