<p>When Sherri Goodman arrived at the Pentagon in 1993 for her job as a deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Environmental Security, the Defense Department was one of the biggest polluters on the planet. The legacy of our nuclear weapons program along with pollution from military bases all over the country. Her job? Clean up the mess. And as things went on, start factoring energy and climate change into how the military operates. How did it go? And what happens now that the Trump people have taken over?</p>

When Sherri Goodman arrived at the Pentagon in 1993 for her job as a deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Environmental Security, the Defense Department was one of the biggest polluters on the planet. The legacy of our nuclear weapons program along with pollution from military bases all over the country. Her job? Clean up the mess. And as things went on, start factoring energy and climate change into how the military operates. How did it go? And what happens now that the Trump people have taken over?

The Pentagon Gets Real about Renewable Energy and Climate

Conflict of Interest is a podcast about the world, through a discerning lens of journalism, politics and above all Vermont. Kevin Ellis goes against the grain of today’s politics and celebrity culture to talk about the massive change all around us and how the world actually works. You will hear from Kevin’s Vermont neighbors AND national voices on difficult issues. Vermont is becoming, or always has been, a place, a real place. We are not interested in the Vermont of the tourist guides. We are not going to talk to Ben and Jerry’s ice cream. We will talk to them about what it is like to sell the company and do something new - and the frustrations, fear and uncertainty that comes with changing your life. Part interview, part history lesson about stuff you won’t see or hear on CNN or NPR.

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Conflict of Interest is a podcast about the world, through a discerning lens of journalism, politics and above all Vermont. Kevin Ellis goes against the grain of today’s politics and celebrity culture to talk about the massive change all around us and how the world actually works. You will hear from Kevin’s Vermont neighbors AND national voices on difficult issues. Vermont is becoming, or always has been, a place, a real place. We are not interested in the Vermont of the tourist guides. We are not going to talk to Ben and Jerry’s ice cream. We will talk to them about what it is like to sell the company and do something new - and the frustrations, fear and uncertainty that comes with changing your life. Part interview, part history lesson about stuff you won’t see or hear on CNN or NPR.

Conflict of Interest is a&nbsp;podcast about the world, through a discerning lens of journalism, politics and above all Vermont. Kevin Ellis goes against the grain of today’s politics and celebrity culture to talk about the massive change all around us and how the world actually works. You will hear from Kevin’s Vermont neighbors AND national voices on difficult issues. Vermont is becoming, or always has been, a place, a real place. We are not interested in the Vermont of the tourist guides. We are not going to talk to Ben and Jerry’s ice cream. We will talk to them about what it is like to sell the company and do something new - and the frustrations, fear and uncertainty that comes with changing your life. Part interview, part history lesson about stuff you won’t see or hear on CNN or NPR.

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