Frank and Jason are joined by their first guest Jeremy Price. The boys take a step away from trick theory to discuss what makes a trick perfect and whether that concept even exists. The conversation goes on many tangents; topics discussed include social pressures, aesthetics, utility of a trick, existentialism, the concept of awesomeness, pragmatism, and who would win in a battle between Plato and Aristotle. If you love philosophy and tricking, this is absolutely the episode for you!