Listen in as Jaken and Victoria relaunch this podcast with life updates — meeting through a matchmaking service, engagement, marriage, pregnancy after loss, and the lessons they learned along the way.

They explore the episode’s theme of promise versus process, the burdens that shape ministry and worship (especially with youth), and challenge listeners to answer their calling now — because faith often grows in the space between struggle and fulfillment.

Also how exactly do Alexander Hamilton and the Prophet Jeremiah teach us to live with a burden?