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For years, the engineer building Square Robot's inspection robot quietly did not believe it would ever work. He says that is exactly why it did.

In this episode of The Pitch Room, Brenden Gibbons traces the path from a fourth grade Lego robotics team to being the first person hired at a company sending submersible robots into tanks full of fuel without draining them first. He explains what underwater robotics at Bluefin taught him about the distance between a demo that works once and a system that has to work 99.999 percent of the time, why he walked away from a stable engineering job with nothing lined up, and what it was like to personally run the first several dozen inspections while testing unfinished software live on paying customers. Along the way he makes the case that the hardest problem at a robotics company eventually stops being the robot.

In this episode:

• The two pencils: how an eighth grader taught him to keep it simple, and how his father walked downstairs and dismantled his motorized bridge design without saying a word
• What a career fair taught him about betting on a major that barely existed, and why a robot on a seabed cannot afford the failure rate a college project can
• Leaving a job that combined both of his biggest interests, taking five months off on purpose, and the advice he gives engineers who are waiting for something safer to come along
• Twitch Plays Baxter: what happens when ten engineers hand a forty thousand dollar humanoid robot to the internet, and what the audience actually tried to do with it
• Why Square Robot's earliest investors were also its first customers, and what that does to a young company's odds of building something anyone wants
• The closed feedback loop: no test tank, no lab, every new feature proven on a paid job in the field, and a two person software team doing the work of ten

Brenden Gibbons is Vice President of Software Engineering at Square Robot, Inc., where he was the first full time employee after the three co-founders. Square Robot was founded in Boston in 2016 and builds submersible robots that inspect above ground storage tanks while they remain in service, removing the need to empty a tank, send a crew into a confined space, and take it offline for months. The company's SR-3 robot and Side Launcher system received C1D2 and C1D1 certification from FM Approvals in early 2025.

Rice's Lilie Lab has been ranked the number one graduate entrepreneurship program in the country for seven years running. Kyle Judah, the person who runs it, says the ranking misses everything.

In this episode of The Pitch Room, recorded on campus at Rice University's Liu Idea Lab for Innovation and Entrepreneurship in Houston, Kyle explains why every person on his staff is a former founder, what students actually need to be trained for now that building software is close to free, and why he celebrates the teams that abandon their ideas in the first week of his accelerator. He also makes the case for Houston as the place the next decade of company building happens, arguing that the era of software eating the world is giving way to something harder: building in atoms instead of bits.

In this episode:

• Why entrepreneurship cannot be taught by people who have not done it, and what an island of misfit toys looks like inside a research university
• The mirages that seduce promising founders, and why talking to customers loses to shipping code when all you have at the end of the day is ten transcripts and some vibes
• Backing jockeys instead of horses: why Lilie tells accelerator teams to go find a better idea, and the summer all three teams that pivoted got into Y Combinator
• What separates a good founder from a great one, and Kyle's theory that the universe time dilates specifically to test entrepreneurs
• The one thing 19 year olds do that experienced founders have stopped doing, and why AI is quietly making it worse
• What a number one ranking actually buys a student, and the conversations Kyle has with parents who are convinced their kid is throwing their life away

Kyle Judah is Executive Director of the Liu Idea Lab for Innovation and Entrepreneurship at Rice University. He previously spent five years at the MIT Trust Center for MIT Entrepreneurship, where he launched the Delta V accelerator, and started his own company at 24.

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Sanjana Kavula and her three co-founders set out to sell an AI receptionist to hospitals. Eighteen month sales cycles, layers of bureaucracy, and a trust problem no amount of funding could shortcut pushed Kairos Health out of medical entirely and into a market they hadn't planned on: independent dental clinics.

In this episode of The Pitch Room, recorded at Rice University's Lilie Entrepreneurship Lab in Houston, Sanjana traces how a failed hospital sales strategy became a working wedge inside dental offices, why some of her own early "traction" turned out to be exactly the wrong customers, and the moment her team realized they'd spent months chasing a solution instead of a problem. In this episode:

• How an 18 month hospital sales cycle pushed Kairos Health out of medical and into dental
• The discovery process that turned patient intake into their wedge into the market
• Going from a first pilot in the Rio Grande Valley to 11 clinics and growing
• The mindset shift from free pilots to "getting payment is the most validating part of a company"
• Why not all traction is good traction, and how the wrong customers can look like progress
• How Kairos Health handles HIPAA compliance, PMS integrations, and building trust in an industry where one bad reference travels fast

This is part of our Houston mini-series recorded at Rice's Lilie Lab, alongside conversations with Tony Cordova and other founders building out of the same space.

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Dr. Tony Cordova has spent his career building the systems that turn student ideas into companies. From a biotech spin-out on Chicago's South Side, to a biochemistry PhD at UT Austin, to running Nucleate across all of Texas, he now heads early-stage ventures at Rice University's Lilie Lab. He calls his approach pathologically helpful, and the default is yes.

In this episode of The Pitch Room, Tony traces the nonlinear path. From a pre-med biomedical sciences student at Texas A&M, to an internship at a startup a stone's throw from the White Sox stadium, to a PhD funded by the U.S. government, to overseeing 22 startups across Texas in a single year as managing director of Nucleate Texas, to landing at Rice. He gets specific about what he actually tells student founders: why five customers isn't enough, why most people ask the wrong question about their product, and the one thing he asks every student before they leave his program.

In this episode:

• Tony's Triangle: people, problem, product, and why most student founders neglect the middle one
• The 5-customer minimum in Launchpad, and why most founders never even hit that number
• Problem feedback versus product feedback: the reframe every founder gets wrong
• The question Tony asks in exit interviews that "sucks the air out of the room"
• Why AI is great for a jank MVP, and where it will actively steer you wrong
• What "pathologically helpful" looks like when you run programs for 130 ventures a year

This is episode 1 of 3 in our Rice / Lilie Lab mini-series.

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Scott Nortman has spent his career building robots, from spacecraft that fly in formation to surgical systems that help doctors operate. The one closest to home is a bedside robot built to solve a problem he watched in his own family: a CPAP mask his father-in-law tore off in his sleep every single night.

In this episode of The Pitch Room, Scott traces the full arc. From a kid who took apart every camera, VCR, and circuit board he could get his hands on, to the Advanced Technology Center at Lockheed Martin, to orthopedic surgical robotics at Mako, to founding his own company, Restful Robotics. He gets honest about the part most founder stories skip: what it actually takes to go from engineer to salesman, why raising friends-and-family money is not the same as closing a VC, and what he learned pitching a vision a few years before the market was ready for it.

In this episode:

• The first-week idea that became a patent years later, and why every engineer should keep an invention notebook
• How formation-flying spacecraft and drone light shows run on the exact same technology
• The real reason most CPAP patients quit, and the robot Scott built to fix it
• Going from the engineer in the room to the founder who has to sell the vision
• Why he says everything he was pitching back in 2020 actually came true
• His one piece of advice for anyone breaking into the field today

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