Wheel Talk with Kelly and Avery Podcast

The Power of Access: The ADA Then & Now


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What was life like before the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) – and where are we now? In this powerful episode, hosts Avery Roberts and Kelly Berger sit down with disability advocate and policy powerhouse Naomi Hess to explore the ADA’s impact – past, present, and future. From curb cuts to Capitol Crawls, they unpack the stories, struggles, and triumphs that shaped the most important civil rights law for Americans living with disabilities. They discuss what’s changed, what hasn’t, and what still needs to be done. Listen in for a mix of history, advocacy, and real talk about building a more accessible future.

Links Mentioned:

Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA): https://www.ada.gov

American Association of People with Disabilities (AAPD): https://www.aapd.com

Disabilities Rights Education & Defense Fund (DREDF): https://dredf.org

Crip Camp: A Disability Revolution (Netflix documentary): https://www.netflix.com/title/81001496

Being Heumann: An Unrepentant Memoir of a Disability Rights Activist: https://judithheumann.com/being-heumann/

The Anti-Ableist Manifesto: https://www.tiffanyyu.com/book

Deaf President Now!: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt34965967/

Change, Not Charity: The Americans with Disabilities Act: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/change-not-charity-americans-disabilities-act/

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Connect with Avery Roberts

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Intro/Outro music created by Andy Rusch

Image Description: Features three women engaging in a virtual conversation. From left to right: Kelly has medium-length, light brown hair, speaks into a microphone, wears white earbuds, and a white top; Avery has long, brown hair, speaks into a microphone, and wears white earbuds; Naomi has short, curly hair and is wearing a red shirt. Speech-to-text captions appear at the bottom of the screen, following their conversation. The background includes various personal items.

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