What does it really take to overcome academic setbacks andachieve success? In this inspiring episode of the Thrive Podcast, President Bruce C. Kusch and Brother Greg Fox sit down with Matt Downs, Co-CEO of Sandbox Industries, who shares his personal journey—from struggling with low ACT scoresto earning a spot at Stanford University.

Matt’s story is a powerful reminder that:

✅ Hard work pays off

✅ Mentorship can change your life

✅ Faith can guide your path

Whether you’re a student, professional, or lifelonglearner, this episode will motivate you to chase your dreams, no matter where you’re starting from.

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