There are two subjects they don’t teach in school that you have to learn as an adult: personal finance and… BOUNDARIES. Jen has an established pattern of inviting people into her life, with no credentials needed, and then harboring resentments when they inadvertently violate her nonexistent boundaries. Betina’s MO was to say nothing for the first few transgressions, then to explode in a way where the punishment didn’t fit the crime. Today’s discussion explores the concept of boundaries not as black and white but as fluid, circumstantial, and always evolving.

0:00 Intros

2:00 Jen’s Boundary Temp Check

06:38 Getting to a place of grace before a hard conversation can lead to growth

11:30 Betina’s Boundary Temp Check

12:45 Sharing about setting a podcasting boundary

17:45 Co-host appreciation

18:30 The boundary spectrum

19:25 How Betina destroyed relationships in the past

21:10 The power in processing and safety in wise counsel

22:30 Betina as a mama bear/right but wrong

24:35 Different levels of boundary work/the fluidity of boundaries

25:35 Jen’s slow processing style/people-pleasing

32:00 Betina is not allowing anyone to break her child’s spirit

32:40 Jen showing compassion to an issue that Betina was having with another person

34:33 Taking things personally/the price tag of anger

38:30 Young Jen wanted a mentor

44:18 Jen recently learned that a boundary is a request

4510: Betina agrees, BUT how the person responds informs your next actions

53:00 Willingness means a lot in a relationship

56:54 Red/Yellow/Green Theory in relationship

1:02:00 Jen’s aversion to the objectification of women

1:03:25 Feminism vs Femininity

1:07:00 Respecting each other's differences/the power of knowing your values

1:09:00 The power of an honest no

1:16:30 Conflicting values

Recipes: Boundary Bowl

Jen’s Thai Peanut Bowl

Slice cucumbers, carrots, scallions, avocado, and place over rice or noodles

Peanut Sauce

Peanut butter

Soy sauce

Brown sugar

Lime juice

Garlic

Ginger

Coconut milk

Chili sauce

Betina’s Veggie Bowl

Chop your veggies:

Tomato, shitake mushrooms, yam, onion, bell pepper

Sautee using avocado oil

Seasoning:

Himalayan sea salt, Cajun seasoning, pepper

Sliced carrots, spinach, and kale. Optional

Can of black beans

Plate over cauliflower rice

Cilantro lime dressing

1 small Avocado

Lime juice

¼ cup Greek yogurt

½ cup water

Cilantro

Garlic past

Sea salt

And blend

Music Credits:

00:00 “For My Good” - AFTR

18:06 “Bring Me Home Again” - OTE

34:15 “The Spirit” - Daniel Fridell

49:40 “Good Things Will Come Eventually” - DJ DENZ The Rooster

65:37 “Love Me Like That” - Deanz

84:25 “My Backbeat” - Gregory David

97:21 “Love Me Like That” - Deanz

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