n this episode, we’re joined by Marvin Winans Jr.—pastor, creative, and member of the legendary Winans family—for an honest and inspiring conversation about faith, legacy, and purpose.

Marvin shares his journey from growing up surrounded by gospel greatness to discovering his own calling in ministry. He opens up about the defining moments that shaped his faith, the challenges of obedience, and how trusting God led him to build a church, raise a thriving family, and navigate unexpected doors in Hollywood.

We also dive into:

•  The origin story of Winans Phase 2 
•  What it was really like growing up in gospel royalty 
•  His perspective on today’s gospel music industry 
•  The blessings (and tests) that come with obedience 

If you’ve ever wrestled with purpose, calling, or trusting God’s timing—this episode is for you.

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