On this episode of HWL Talks, host Amanda Wheeler, VP of Insourcing at HWL, sits down with two powerhouse leaders: Laurie DiMarzio, SVP of Client Services at HWL, and Darlene Souza, SVP & CHRO at South Shore Health. What started as a high-stakes workforce challenge during the height of the pandemic evolved into a true partnership built on trust, transparency, and transformative collaboration.

Together, they explore:

• The “likeability dilemma” women face in leadership—and how to rise above it
• What it really means to be kind (but not necessarily nice) in business
• How vulnerability, emotional intelligence, and active listening can build lasting partnerships
• Tips for fostering connection and respect—even in moments of disagreement

This episode is a candid conversation about breaking molds, supporting other women, and redefining what leadership looks like in healthcare. Whether you're a seasoned executive or emerging leader, you’ll walk away with inspiration—and actionable takeaways—for building stronger, more collaborative teams.