If this past year has taught us anything, it’s that change and transformation is not only inevitable, but it takes shape in a variety of ways: large and small, personal and collective. In this week's episode, we hear from two business leaders who know all about change from two different perspectives and scales.

Jen Fisher is the Managing Director and Chief Well-Being Officer at Deloitte, bestselling author of "Work Together Better," and host of the WorkWell Podcast, and Karen Fang is Managing Director and Global Head of Sustainable Finance at Bank of America. Despite their different roles, they bring to the conversation a rich understanding of the power of transformation—from the small ways we thank ourselves every morning to the large ways we allocate capital in a corporation.