In this episode of The Sacred Sofa, Brad and Grace welcome back Karla Drader for a thoughtful exploration of prayer as a path through illusion and into truth. 🙏🛋️

Together, they reflect on how prayer can help us unravel the false narratives we carry—about ourselves, others, and God—and gently guide us toward greater clarity, surrender, and connection.

They also share their own unique approaches to prayer, offering a glimpse into the many shapes and forms this sacred practice can take. Whether you’re a longtime pray-er or just beginning to explore spiritual practices, this conversation offers both insight and invitation.

🎧 Tune in for a grounded, honest, and hope-filled episode about the role of prayer in the spiritual journey.