It's our 50th EPISODE!! And for the first time in over 18 months (and 47 episodes), we recorded this one in person with our guest. Was it worth the wait? Time will tell.  

In this episode, Kent swings by Orland Park Church in Orland Park, IL on an oppressively hot July day to chat with his good friend, Derek Buikema, about Derek's job as Lead Pastor of Orland Park Church.

After Derek attempts to derail the conversation by bringing up the story of Kent's disastrous audition for the Wheaton College Improv Team, Kent gets things back on track by shifting the focus back to Derek with some hard hitting questions about Derek's short-comings as a minister.

Just kidding. But they DO go deep on what life as the leader of a congregation of 1,000+ is really like. In a tight 30 minutes they touch on everything from the time Derek did four funerals in a single week to how he deals with congregational criticism to the most extreme responses he's ever gotten when he tells people "I'm a pastor." Being a pastor is one of the oldest, most intense, and most public professions around. Join us this week as we go behind the pulpit and into the life of Pastor Derek Buikema. And then get #BackToWork 

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