In this episode, Tom sits down with Dr. Josh Stein: child and adolescent psychiatrist, clinic director, and longtime advocate for youth mental health to unpack a challenge many students, families, and educators are facing: How do we encourage kids to strive for excellence without slipping into perfectionism?

They explore motivation, stress, achievement pressure, and the difference between healthy striving and unhealthy expectations. Whether you’re a student, a parent, a teacher, or a coach, this conversation offers practical, real-life strategies you’ll want to save and come back to.