The Process Debt Podcast — Year in Review

A full year of uncovering the hidden costs of how work really gets done. 🎙️

In this special “Year in Review” episode, Chris and Toby look back on the first year of The Process Debt Podcast — from the early conversation that started it all (“process must be discoverable and transferable”) to exploring the strange collision of Elon Musk and government bureaucracy, to the ongoing battle between Try vs. Buy when building systems and change.

It’s a reflection on what we’ve learned about how organizations scale, stall, and sometimes survive on bubblegum and duct tape — and how great process thinkers are the real crown jewels of any business.

With year two ahead and new ventures through Magic Button Labs, the hosts share lessons, laughs, and the optimism to keep fixing the unfixable — one process at a time.

Listen to The Process Debt Podcast — where we make sense of the mess behind every business.