If pain is such a universal human experience, why do we spend most of our lives trying to outrun it instead of learning from it? In this episode, we dive into the paradox of pain—how it can trap us in victimhood and fear, but also serve as a trailhead to growth, gratitude, and presence.

We’ll explore:

• The difference between pain that protects and pain that grows us
• Stories of physical, emotional, and spiritual pain that became turning points
• Why seeking out challenge may be the only way to avoid being blindsided by suffering
• How pain can center us in the present moment and strip life back to what really matters

Bruce Lee once said, “Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one.” This conversation is about exactly that—choosing to meet pain with courage, rather than avoidance.

Key Takeaway: Pain is unavoidable—but whether it leaves you bitter or makes you better depends on how you face it.