The Cut

The Pursuit of Total Friendship: Nicole Cliffe and Daniel Mallory Ortberg

04.30.2019 - By Vox Media Podcast NetworkPlay

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Nicole Cliffe and Daniel Mallory Ortberg met in the Hairpin comments section and quickly became long-distance friendship soulmates--they went on to start the website The Toast together. This week, they tell us about everything that's happened since they first bonded over Rebecca, answering questions like: How does a friendship change when one of you transitions? What about when one of you finds God? And who the fuck is Loretta? 

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