This episode is broken down into two parts on our YouTube page. This is the full interview.

Derrick Mains is joined by Pravir Malik, who is an expert on quantum computing and AI with 22 books on the subjects. The two discuss the concept of complex adaptive systems, which they define as systems that display complexity and have emergent properties that can adapt to threats in a positive way. They relate this to the five stages of grief and how people respond to change in organizations. They also consider the subjectivity of complexity and how it can be seen differently from different perspectives, such as through reason or a super intelligent AI. Finally, they touch on the limitations of human understanding and the need to remember our biological perspective.

Mains describes Malik's perspective and theories as flying in the face of conventional scientific community beliefs. Mains emphasizes the importance of listening to differing and altered perspectives, especially when rethinking the physics of the universe to better understand how a new model may be needed. They also mention that in the coming weeks, there will be more episodes that are thought-provoking and exciting. The podcast focuses on quantum computing, AI, and deep thinking subjects.