Piers talks with Bruce Keebaugh, founder of catering and events company The Big Group, about the need for a clear and transparent plan to reopen the Victorian economy. Bruce says there's huge frustration for businesses and people stuck at home who want to get back to living. He's a big supporter of rapid anitigen testing, which he reckons is a great tool not being utilised. And he'd love Melbourne Cup Day on November 2nd, often referred to as 'the race that stops the nation', to mark the beginning of Australia's emergence from devastating lockdown.