Our guest is Dr. James Conca who is discussing the proposed Green New Deal and why it falls far short of a real solution and what an ideal Green New Deal would look like. Gabe is joined by cohost Tom Blees.  James Conca is a PhD scientist in the field of the earth and environmental sciences for 31 years, and a regular columnist for Forbes Magazine.  Tom Blees is the President of The Science Council for Global Initiatives.