In this episode, I sit down with CFP and registered life planner Lillian Turner to talk about the deeper side of money, from financial literacy and money trauma to debt, happiness, values, and what it really means to build wealth. 

We get into why so many people think they are bad with money when they were simply never taught, how coaching and financial planning can work together, and why true financial freedom is about more than just saving and investing. We also unpack the connection between money and meaning, the difference between return on investment and return on life, and how to spend in a way that actually aligns with what matters most. This conversation goes far beyond budgeting, 401(k)s, debt, and investing strategies. It is about using money as a tool to create a life that feels rich in experiences, purpose, and fulfillment. 

If you have ever wrestled with scarcity, guilt, financial overwhelm, or the pressure to follow someone else’s definition of success, this episode will give you a fresh perspective on wealth, happiness, and living intentionally.